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Post by Tina on Jul 9, 2004 3:45:32 GMT
they looked like birdys drawn on a pc to me with a paper like filter. But after you said all that its kindda makes me wonder if that was all she did is add the paper filter thing (doesn't really make me wonder about that for 5 and 6 though) *shuts up now*
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Post by Tina on Jul 9, 2004 3:46:14 GMT
cute cat cheetah
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Post by Kahlah - The Twilight Wolf on Jul 9, 2004 3:46:24 GMT
Geez Cheetah... I don't know if I should even send you what i'm sending ya now XD
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Post by majicksprings on Jul 9, 2004 3:49:21 GMT
Here's MY picture that I "drew" Please note...I did NOT really draw this picture. I edited out the background and then using Paint Shop Pro 8 I used the texture thingy. Then I signed it. This was not hard to do in the least. And I seriously doubt that the original poster DREW those. Heck...if anyone wants a picture done like that just email it to me at majickspringspetz@thisismysitespace.com and I'll gladly do it for you.
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Post by Tina on Jul 9, 2004 3:49:46 GMT
Heres a picture of a bird I traced on the computer, it look like a real bird when I first made it but now It just looks like scribbles i made trying to form a bird to me.
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Post by melanieyeah on Jul 9, 2004 6:59:12 GMT
you guys, this has really really really hurt my feelings. i drew the pictures and used the texturiser. i have the photographs i drew from to show you, but i am literally am so upset that ive been doubted, thats so ****ty, im really hurt. i go to art college, i got a grade A at gcse for art, i CAN draw and very well at that. i am going to show what i can do, and to all who doubt me, well i dont care because my friends and family know, i know so what do i care if some ''people'' dont agree that i done them. well actually i really do care and it hurts because i have actually done them. to think ive shed a tear over this subject, its the only thing in life i can do well...the only bloody thing, and ive been doubted, combined with alot of other things at home (landlord has sold my flat and ive gota find a new home) i used drawing as a release, to get away from stress, but it seems to have created more for me. im sorry you guys who doubt me, thats fine. it just sux to think of all the hours i spend drawing...hours and hours and for what, to be accused of NOT creating the pictures. im 19, i am not a child, i work, go to college and have my own place AND this is a hobby of mine, i can do better than to use photos! here are the pics i drew from thats the first tiel i drew..... you have no idea how hurt i am from reading this. is there ANYWAY i can prove how good i am? at all please, i need to show you, i will not let this one go until ive proved myself. its nice to gang up on people isnt it?
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Post by petzgirl on Jul 9, 2004 8:10:49 GMT
Before you start accusing people of things, you should actually look into things. Because I actually think Melanie really did draw these. I took the first photo Melanie said she used and edited it in PSP. My attempt to see if it really was possible for Melanie to do that to the photo is on the left. As you can see, compared to the one Melanie drew it's completly different. Circle #1: Melanies head feathers are alot clearer and more dominant. Circle #2: The forehead begins to rise earlier to meet the feathers, unlike the original where the bird's feathers are more parrallel *sp?* to the head and the forehead does not have to rise. Circle #3: The chest sticks out more.. as if it's in a dane pose xD Is alot more prouder and plumper. Circle #4: The photo gets cut of so there basically is only half the body, and you can't PSP that. Circle #5: The wing has been totally remade and is a different shape. That area is more straight and not as plump. So there you go They're not faults, they're differences and what make the painting stand out. Also I suck at art and havn't a clue what I'm talking about but there you go. I hope that clears everything up. (and sorry Melanie for using your photo =p)
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Post by melanieyeah on Jul 9, 2004 8:20:02 GMT
thankyou petzie thankyou so so so much for doing that for me. im really greatful, i really really am. thankyou. and to the rest of you, please dont accuse, before you know the truth, you have no idea how reading this thread made me feel. here is a picture ive HAND DRAWN this is a pic handdrawn by my of my tiel, done in biro
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Post by petzgirl on Jul 9, 2004 8:22:24 GMT
That's ok. =)
*now hides behind teacup to avoid barrage of flames that'll prolly be thrown at her xD*
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Post by melanieyeah on Jul 9, 2004 8:35:57 GMT
aww, noone know how it feels to be wrongly accused, it hurts so much, especially for all the effort you put into it. what satisfaction would i gain from using photos and claiming as my own? this really is the only thing i can do well, and to be told it not my own work hurts so much, and when its 50 against one, you dont stand a hope in hell. thanks for helping me petzie, im glad there is someone who belives me. a pic i drew, NON PHOTOGRAPIC and another
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Post by majicksprings on Jul 9, 2004 8:42:27 GMT
I'm not trying to continue the argument. I just want to point a few things out. This will be all I have left to say on the subject.... Before you start accusing people of things, you should actually look into things. Because I actually think Melanie really did draw these. Actually I really did look into it cause I am a PSP junkie big time. Actually yes you can if you know what you're doing. All it takes is the smudge tool if you know how to use it right. Here's what I did using that very same original picture. Please notice that there is indeed more added on to the bird where the picture cuts off: I can do lots and lots more to it using just the tools supplied in PSP.
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Post by melanieyeah on Jul 9, 2004 8:45:16 GMT
I CAN DRAW, I CAN! I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY I REALLY CAN DRAW! DO YOU REALISE WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO ME!I DO NOT NEED THIS ****!YOU HAVE NO IDEA IN HELL WHAT I AM GOING THROUGH. MY PIC LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THAT, AT ALL! ITS not even that blurry. i drew these pictures i dont care what you say, i drew them leave me alone. another budgie i drew compaire the others too, go on...i want you too! go and do it, plus i draw in photoshop, not psp. i hope you feel as low as i do one day, i hope all bad **** happens to you and then you will know how i feel. you have no idea how it feels, it LOOKS NOTHING LIKE MINE AT ALL!! because i DREW MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahh forget it, im never going to be able to get through to all of you. if you have negative things to say, dont post, if you have positive things to say please please do, i need cheering up so much
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Post by ShYLaDeH on Jul 9, 2004 9:06:19 GMT
just because you people dont have drawing talent, dont doubt that other people can't do it just because you can't. i known mel for ages now, and if she said shes drawn that from scratch i believe her period. if anyone has anything more to say negativly about mels things say it to me not her. here's my email DingO_CuB@yahoo.com.au because mel really does not deserve to be barraged with negative comments, do not post back her with bad comments, im just trying to take the heat off of mel, she really is cut about you ripping apart her artwork with accusations. so please if you want to say something negative email me, do not post back here again. i know you are all respectable fair people. so i know you will understand, that sticking up for a friend is what friends do...
thank-you for reading.
~ShY_LaDeH~
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Post by majicksprings on Jul 9, 2004 9:26:55 GMT
Mel has taken me up on my offer to draw something for me. I've already provided the picture for her. If it turns out how I hope it will then I will EAT MY WORDS and publicly apologize to her. We're currently talking to each other through the private message thing on the board.
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Post by Kahlah - The Twilight Wolf on Jul 9, 2004 9:47:53 GMT
First off not to be rude in all.. But in the world of art you WILL get positive and NEGITIVE feedback. how you take that feedback only shows what in the art industry can make OR break you. Mel I've been drawing since I was 3.. Toyed around in Photoshop since it was 5.5. As I said If you drew then then you have talent.. If you didn't just tell the truth. I go by what I see and in the 20 almost 21 years of my life I've seen more people try to 'fake' a drawing than anything. I'm used to seeing/using different meduims in Photoshop. First and foremost i can tell you this... As advise ease off the Texturing Fitler ; It kinda degrades the true meduim of your work. It's why I avoid it and so many others as well. Ranting and raving, 'shouting' about what you make in school or what you've been through doesn't help anything. It just degrades you. Learn some self control. You will have your work judged where ever you post it. If you were to post this somewhere else .. How much you want to bet people will question it's authentic structure? For the record Pics can be resized and Transformed (Stretched, screw, prespective ..angle ..rotated and much more) in Photoshop. As I said.. best to 'lay off' the texturizer filter. So many people use it and it degrades the actual quality of your work. Hand drawn is better than 'All photoshop' sometimes. So please.. All of you stop rantinga nd raving because getting a good and bad response for artwork is NORAML. As for **** happening to someone.. YOU have NO BLOODY IDEA what a MESSED UP and HORRIBLE WEEK I've been having. But of course I'm not going to sit here and wish something like this (Bad things happening) to anyone. It's wrong. If you didn't care you wouldn't have ranted off like you did. ShYLaDeH I wouldn't give two corner stones from the brooklyn bridge if you've known Mel here for your whole life. As I would point out a simple fact which is true to life ... as rude as the Brooklyn bridge comment may have sounded (I apologize but it's true). "You can know someone their whole life and not really know what they've truely done Good or bad" The Hand drawn pic proves her talent but of course I've already stated about the whole texture thing. Mel posted her work here... so as an Artist she should have expected both good and bad comments. Mel hun I may be a year or so older than you but I do know this: In the art world the comments made to your work you can take and keep going or let them break you. At current from all of your ranting which wasn't truely needed if you took into account that maybe some of us have used Photoshop and it's many tools for a long time thus we know them. Right now you're at the "breaking point" you're letting life get in the way of what you love, you're letting mere words break your spirit. My comments sometimes may be harsh but I always keep it to truth. Sure some love me for it.. some hate me. Yet I'm not here on this planet to be liked or loved. I'm just here to keep certain things turning. NEVER let some comments break your spirit for drawing.. DON'T let life get you down.. and never take that anger out on everyone else by wishing such things. I bet my week so far has been worse than yours. I'll tell you why. On the 4th of July.. a nice holiday for most and One of my Cousin's Birthday. Well my Cousin Tanika was out enjoying her birthday and later that night my family got a call and of course the newspaper on the morning of the 5th. The morning paper held a article about a Fort Washington Man who was found dead over in D.C. His name was Anthony Brown and he was 22. My mother began to panic and called around just to see if anyone had see my Big Cousin Anthony... Everyone in the family that she called said no. His father and my Aunt went to do a Body Idenification. Sadly enough it was my cousin Anthony who was killed, shot once in the head. The phone call which we recieved later on that day was about my Uncle Norman. He ended up getting into a serious Car accident the night of the 4th of July. He was tired and some of my family members being selfish didn't want to ride in the car with him to make sure he got home safely. My Aunt and their son can both drive. One could have drove the van and the other could have rode with my uncle since he was tired. They knew my uncle shouldn't have been driving at all. But my Uncle Norman loved his family and he wanted to be with them. My Cousin Micheal.. their son drove his mother home earlier ..niether one of them stayed with my Uncle. two blocks from his home my uncle ran into not only a pole but a tree. He suffers from 10 broken ribs, a punctured lung and internal bleeding. He was in critical condition up until early Thursday this week. He's stable now. If this didn't beat all... We got another phone call on the 5th.. It was about our Grandmother Bert. She died early that morning. So for this week steming from last week I have two dead family members and one that nearly lost his life due to the selfishness of his own loved ones. Thusday was the funerals of both my Grandma and my Cousin Anthony. So my point to this is.. You may think your life is bad but others have it far worse than you even realize. You think some bad comments is ruining your life? Think again. Calm yourself and soak up what people are telling you let it be good or bad. Believe it or not.. You were given advise in my first post to begin with. You jsut have to look for it between my Analysis.
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