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Post by petzgirl on Jul 9, 2004 10:09:47 GMT
All this art talk made me draw! xD
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Post by ShYLaDeH on Jul 9, 2004 11:55:59 GMT
i take no offence to snipy remark such as "the brooklyn bridge" or watever it was, i was sticking up for a friend, who frankly did NOT derserve to be rubbished around by you people, all she wanted to do was show you some of her art, sure you could say it was **** if you wanted, that is called opinion but saying "oh you didnt do that you copied it" is called jealously and critisism. now ill make one thing clear, i dont care watever the hell you think about her pictures, as i believe they are beautifull. but dont overstep your boundries, saying the things you and the other people said was not suggestions towards her artwork, but you all were delibratly being a**holes. i dont give a rats bum about if you think she did draw it or not, but just be careful in future how you place your words. if you all wanted an arguement, you've got it there you go, but i wont waste anymore energy on something so stupid. It is discusting the way you are treating people here. ~ShY_LaDeH~ EDIT: btw petzie cool drawing!!!
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Post by petzgirl on Jul 9, 2004 12:06:12 GMT
While I was looking more closely at editing the pic me and Kahlah, well, Kahlah, noticed this: (see black circle)
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Post by Kahlah - The Twilight Wolf on Jul 9, 2004 12:10:36 GMT
o.0 see end section of pic more closely. I only have a question and it is NOT for anyone ELSE BUT HER to answer. Mel if you were going to 'fade' the end of the bird why do it after the texture was applied? You could have went to Edit -> undo as many times as needed to have the texture uplifted, then fade the end of the bird and finally go to Filter and your last used filter would be right at the top of the whole filter list.
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Post by melanieyeah on Jul 9, 2004 14:54:38 GMT
becasue i wrote my signature there, and after i done it i thought it lookked ****, so i went over it and tried to hide it best as i could. i used a thick brush, and it didnt look good. i didnt want anyone stealing it so i put my signature on, but had happened to save it so no amount of going back would get rid of it, which was why i had to edit that little bit away. i did it all around so it looked more even and not in one place. I AM NOT LYING, I NEVER HAVE LIED, I NEVER WILL LIE. IM OVER THE WHOLE SCHOOL THING OK, I AM AN ADULT, WHY WOULD I GET PLEASURE FROM CHEATING PICTURES!!!!!!!!! IT MAKES NO SENSE, I ONLY COME HERE TO SHOW OFF MY WORK, AND TO DO REQUESTS. THATS ALL I DIDNT NEED THIS EXTRA STRESS, AND YOU INSIST ON GIVING IT TO ME. IVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS ALL DAY, AND REALISED WHY THE DO I CARE IF YOU ALL BELIVE ME OR NOT? THE FACT IS, I DREW THEM, MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS KNOW MY TALENT, SO WHY DO I CARE SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT STRANGERS THINK? the fact is i care because i liked coming here, i wanted my work noticed by people and appriciated, but its clearly not. i hope, i really really hope that if(when) you know the truth, you feel so guilty about what you have put me through. nobody knows what im going through, its so hard knowing that you will not have a home within the month, this is my getaway. now its obviously not, i do not need this much stress, i came here innocently to show my talent. i dont care anymore if you dont belive me.. but its the god honest truth, i swear on my entire families lives, everyone i care about and who is dear to me that i drew these pictures. i swear on my life, and my fellas life my pet birds life and absolutley everyone i love, that i did draw these pictures. if i have to draw them step by step i will, if i have to leave off the grain filter then i will, anything to proove my innocence. im not taking this lying down, i know the odds are against me, and yes they are BUT i have to fight for myself because i am right.
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Post by liz on Jul 9, 2004 14:59:20 GMT
If you drew pictures, why feel the need to texturise them in Photoshop?
I need to reinstall photoshop 7 (or download CS) and have a poke when I come back from holiday (although this will have blown over so i wont bother)
Also, GCSEs mean nothing really. its judged on research skills and application of these (I should know, I had a vendetta against my teacher and made sure there was a big hoo-hah about it all. as I was predicted A* by my old teacher and a D by him. Ended up with an A too).
If you have to know my honest opinion, I was the first to mention the authenticity of the "drawings" and I think its unfair that people that were one minute "OOO I LOVE IT I WANT ONE" were suddenly all "Its fake" then still expect a picture...
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Post by melanieyeah on Jul 9, 2004 15:10:45 GMT
i know. it hurts. if you draw a picture then texturise it, it looks way better. im drawing a picture now, and not texurising it and im doing it step by step, putting the stages as i go, so i will show you how i done them, then i will texturise it to show you the final reslt so you can see that it does infact look better with a texture. and i wont try putting my signature...it seems to make me more fcking guilty.
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Post by Tina on Jul 9, 2004 15:20:36 GMT
I hope you can forgive me for kindda giving into them saying its fake. (Its kinda because I was half beliving she drew them and half none beliving after the one post) Now their just look like there trying to find a way to prove you didn't draw them. But I belive you drew them
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Post by Kahlah - The Twilight Wolf on Jul 9, 2004 15:52:07 GMT
I AM NOT LYING, I NEVER HAVE LIED, I NEVER WILL LIE. IM OVER THE WHOLE SCHOOL THING OK, I AM AN ADULT, WHY WOULD I GET PLEASURE FROM CHEATING PICTURES!!!!!!!!! IT MAKES NO SENSE, I ONLY COME HERE TO SHOW OFF MY WORK, AND TO DO REQUESTS. THATS ALL I DIDNT NEED THIS EXTRA STRESS, AND YOU INSIST ON GIVING IT TO ME. IVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS ALL DAY, AND REALISED WHY THE DO I CARE IF YOU ALL BELIVE ME OR NOT? THE FACT IS, I DREW THEM, MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS KNOW MY TALENT, SO WHY DO I CARE SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT STRANGERS THINK? the fact is i care because i liked coming here, i wanted my work noticed by people and appriciated, but its clearly not. i hope, i really really hope that if(when) you know the truth, you feel so guilty about what you have put me through. nobody knows what im going through, its so hard knowing that you will not have a home within the month, this is my getaway. now its obviously not, i do not need this much stress, i came here innocently to show my talent. i dont care anymore if you dont belive me.. *expects nothing* I just don't 'Apperciate' the fact she's trying to pull a guilt trip. I don't like the fact she's still ranting and raving. Just because you're upset over RL gives you or your friend no right to pull guilt trips or say that 'we're' jealous of your work. *Shrugs* I feel no guilt.. none what so ever. What I said was my opinion But as a Adult and student you have yet to really realize that critisism will always be apart of opinions. You like so many have put their artwork here and each in turn have recieve good and bad comments. Yet do you see those others taking their 'anger' from real life out on others for their opinion? Yet you don't want to put your signature on your pics.... YET if someone stole those pics how could you prove it was yours to begin with? You really have yet to feel the true sting of the art world and I will still question the authentic nature of the photoshop drawings in question until your next one is posted.. But if you're expecting an apology from me because of my opinions it's a very very slim chance you'll get one. The reason is because of the whole 'guilt trip' that's being yanked out of the hat. Editor's cut: Petzie found something very unusual with the hamster pic o.o; hm. Maybe she'll post her findings later
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Post by petzgirl on Jul 9, 2004 16:29:15 GMT
I got a white line around the hamster when I penciled it. Melanie said: i put it onto a grassy background to see how it looked, but it looked ****. so went around it in white then used the grain effect, which is why there are layers on it But I also got a black line around the other bird yet it wasn't around the branch it was perched on.
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Post by *~Cheetah~* on Jul 9, 2004 17:10:50 GMT
Sorry Mel. I was only asking. I'm only human here. And Kahlah and Liz are right. That canvas texture only makes your art look... fake. I'd never ever use it on mine (except for last night when I was playing around) But that hand-drawn bird portrait is gorgeous. Maybe you should get into vectoring.
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Post by LinaGrey on Jul 9, 2004 17:18:31 GMT
Hello...
I went through this thread at the request of Kahlah, as I am an avid critic for her work as well as a good friend. I spend alot of time looking though artwork on the net and I have been doing it long enough to know what's good and what's not and for the most part I can tell when something is fake or not. Though I am not an artist, for I have no talent in that area, I do know how to judge it.
With that said, I will now state my opinion. When I was given this thread to look at, and went over the pics that Melanie posted, the first thing out of my mouth to Kahlah was that they were regular pictures that were textured over. It's so obvious that it hurts.
Now Melanie, you can sit there and rant and rave and type in caps, but it doesn't change the fact that you did not draw those birds. Kahlah is right. If you keep vehemutly denying it like you have been, it only shows more that you are lying. ~Doth protest to much~
I know Kahlah well enough to know that she is an experienced artist and if she is pointing out that those "drawings" are not true drawings, then I have to agree with her. Especially seeing it with my own eyes.
o.O Done.
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Post by melanieyeah on Jul 9, 2004 17:20:55 GMT
there is nothing that can proove my innocence, ive tried and tried and tried, but i can swear to god, i can promise i can do everything, you have my word that i did those pictures. why why why would i keep this dragging if i wasnt. compaire the photos to the pictures i drew, they are imperfect, they have small imperctions, eyes too far apart etc. i know my pictures are drawn by me, my fella does too becasue he sits with me while i do them. all i can say is i feel sorry for the next ''GOOD'' drawer to come along, they will never know what they are in for. isnt it big ganging up on people, very fun.. it hurts me to read what you said '' you did not draw those birds'' but i know i did, and th one in question took me 2 hours approx. reply to cheetah: well at college i do interior decor and design crafts, which i enjoy. i have had a few requests off family members for paintings, actual portraits of their pets, but im waiting for photos to draw from. it would be good as a permanant job, but theres no money in it.. so i think it will stay as a hobby or just as a little cash on the side. i really have felt awful over this thread, i only wanted to show off my pictures, i am so proud of them, i really really am. when i first don them (ages ago) i wasnt a member anywhere to show them off, now i am a member at various boards, i felt like i could share them and be praised, make myself feel better. but i just ended up feeling worse. i just got off te phone with my dad, he knows my talent, he just said 'ignore them' so i think thats what im gona have to do. thanks for the critique you guys, i know where not to share my work in future. bye bye please lock and delete post thankyou
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Post by Kahlah - The Twilight Wolf on Jul 9, 2004 17:41:57 GMT
*Kerblinks* You..called your dad over a thread posted in a form. Merely typed words and opinions? *Shakes her head* Whoa.. whoa.. *blinks again and tries to bring some concept to this* Let me get this straight you're 19 and you called your dad over a forum posting?! O__o Either your nerves are bad Mel.. or you need to get a grip. Either way you need some time to yourself.
Ugh second of all you need to learn this Mel: You do not need people to praise you to make you feel better. All that matters is that you like your art and the people you made them for likes it. It's called pushing the bad reviews to the side and getting on with your life. You could have joined VCL, The Lion King Fan Archives, Side 7, Yerf or even Deviantart if you wanted to show ya work so badly.
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Post by petzgirl on Jul 9, 2004 17:57:46 GMT
You know I sort of felt sorry for you through this but... the way you retailiated. CHILL. We don't know you and you don't know us. It's nothing to go ring your dad over..
'DAD THEY WERE MEAN THEY DONT LIKE MY PREETY PICY SHOUT AT THEM'
I'm sorry, but that's the way it seemed. And also your constant use of caps didn't help anything either. Just because you didn't get the flavour lollypop you wanted doesn't mean you can throw it back at us o.O
I'm sorry to hear about your home but don't take it out on us, it was basically like this to me.
People: I think its fake You: ITS NOT FAKE ITS NOT MY FAULT YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IM GOING THROUGH MY HOUSE IS BEING TAKED AWAY.
Unfortunatly that made you just seem like a bigger idiot, and I'm sorry you've chose to leave.
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