LNZ Pro Unibreed Question

[BoardwalkSue]

I am most likely the only one here who does this, but I make my breed this way...

1. Change the original file, so I can use notepad to make external lnz files to edit.
2. Once I have the breed as I want, I open LNZ Pro and open the original breed I used as a base.
3. I choose edit, then replace from file, and point to my external lnz files to replace the originals and save.
4. Then I add the AC picture in Hex Workshop.
5. Last I unibreed the file in LNZ Pro.

You get the picture... anyway, my question is this. I've noticed that after completing the breed and playing with it in the game, when I pick the pet up it tends to go all wirey when it moves a certain way, as if the linez are messed up. Otherwise it looks fine. Has anyone else ever experienced this? If not, am I to assume I should just make the breed entirely in LNZ Pro? Is my querky method causing this to happen?

It hasn't occured in every breed, but it has happened in two now. It happens to the tail on my Harlequin (Great Dane ow) and my latest breed, which is not yet released, because of this weird glitch.

I am going to try to create the breed from scratch in LNZ Pro, to test it... but I would like to see how others methods vary.



Edit - Update: I made the breed again, using only LNZ Pro to create the breed, and pet2bmp to make the ac pic, but then I added it using LNZ Pro. Then I made it into a unibreed, now it's even more weird... it works in Petz 3, but in Petz 4 it still goes all wirey. Oh well...

To clarify, I made no adjustments in [Linez]. I only added paintball variations.

Edit again - Well, I thought I'd check my other file, the Harlequin... it works fine in Petz 3!! So, it seems the issue has to do with the difference in Petz 4 and Petz 5 that causes the petz to go wirey now and then, when picked up...?

Gah! My brain hurts... I'm giving up for now. Anyone have any idea what the hey is going on... chime on in. I'm going to take an aspirin.

[Minibyte]

Sue, I think the problem is a Unibreed glitch/bug. I noticed that you made the Harleqin a Unibreed version 2 breed. I copied and pasted the adult and child lnz into a new copy of the Great Dane breed file, deleted your Uni version and saved my new Great Dane version. The tail did not go wonky. I then converted my new version to Unibreed using Lnz Pro 3 and the tail is still fine.

Try it. Also try Unibreed version 3 with your new breed which I couldn't test because it hasn't been released.

BTW, use LNZ Pro to replace the Adoption Center picture. Then you don't have to worry about file size.

[BoardwalkSue]

Ah, thanks for taking the time and testing it!

I must have missed the update on LNZ Pro. I thought I had the most recent version. I'll definitely take care of that now!

It is good to know that it's not my bass-ackward method. I don't consider myself an expert by any means, but I really didn't think my method, though odd as it is, was the problem. I pretty much know how the files are supposed to be put together... that's why I kind of assumed it might be happening during the unibreed part.

Thanks again~

Edit - Update: Alas no, that wasn't it. I uninstalled LNZ Pro, then dl'd the latest version and installed, started from scratch on both the Harlequin and my new breed hexed all in LNZ Pro. Both work fine in P3, but when being picked up in P4... wonkyville. LOL!

*back for more aspirin*

[Minibyte]

Sue, you need to redo all your Unibreeds. Unibreed version 3 has a bug which causes breeding problems / stuck pregnancies when crossbreeding. Do it soon before people start reporting problems. Poor Vickie and Nova... neither waited for the Beta to be well tested and now they each have over 100 breeds that should be reconverted......

I don't know why you are having a problem in Petz 4. Mine worked fine. Send me copies of your files and let me test them on my system.

[Kishi]

Then I wonder if mine have problems.

They work perfect for me, but I dunno about anyone else. (Heck, I don't even -see- people who use my breedz, so for all I know I'm the only one who plays with them! LOL)

[BoardwalkSue]

Kishi, I know just how you feel. =\ I'm all confused about all of this now, because I play with and breed my unibreed files all of the time, and I haven't had a problem. I'm sure you're not the only one who plays with your breedz!!

Oh, fudge! Well... here I go again. I love Petz and all you can do with it, but the one thing that I detest having to do, is convert and/or fix files! I don't know why, just one of my pet peeves I suppose. *sigh* I'm beginning to wonder if it's even worth it anymore. Sometimes I feel like I should just hex petz and forget about making breedz, then there are no conversions, no glitches and fewer headaches. I _do_ apprecaite the heads-up though. Poor Vickie and Nova! I only have about 10 to 15 I think... now to decide what I want to do with them.

I'm sending you the files Minibyte. They are the newest versions that were just created. Thanks.

[Minibyte]

Sue, I think I tracked down the problem. Watch your email. I want you to test something to see if I am right.... I think it is the base breed file and not either the hexing or the unibreed conversion that makes the tails go wonky.

[BoardwalkSue]

Thank you Minibyte. I really appreciate the time you took to look into those files!

You know, if the base breed is the issue, I guess this means whoever creates unibreedz in Petz 3 using those files, will have the same problems...? I wonder if that can be corrected in LNZ Pro.

[Minibyte]

I think we need more examples and then maybe we can ask Nick to take a look. It is curious that it was a breed with Dalmatian spots and a Mutt that were the problem. When Windows XP chokes on a breed file, it is usually a breed based on the Dalmatian or the Mutt. Interesting......

I can't tell from your post, Sue. Did changing the base breed to the Dogz 4 version solve the problem on your system?

Re the probem with Versions 1 and 2 of Unibreed. It doesn't show up on all breeds. However, crossbreeding two different unibreeds often leads to a stuck pregnancy. I have had to rescue many stuck moms which were Supernova Unibreed horses.

[BoardwalkSue]

You couldn't tell from my post, because I hadn't tested it yet. *lol*

I just did, and it did fix the wonky tail! Here's something else odd that I have found. My Harlequin (Great Dane overwrite) was created in Petz 3, using my old method and LNZ Pro, and it works fine in P3 and P4, but in P5 the tail goes a tad wonky when held up.

[Minibyte]

The tail on your unibreed Harlequin went wonky for me in both Petz 4 and Petz 5. The method you use doesn't matter. Unless you make terrible mistakes. LOL!

[BoardwalkSue]

ME?! Naw... I always hex perfectly, you know that! ROTFL!

I really didn't think my method mattered, as I pretty much know how the files are put together, which is why I wondered if the unibreed part of the process might be what was causing my issues. I never touched the linez section at all, and that always seemed to be the problem with the tails.

Edit - I have fixed and updated all of my unibreed files on Petz Boardwalk. Had a burst of energy this morning.